From Separation to Unity: Spiritual Awakening, Truth & What Is Ours to Do with Cathy Antunes

What happens when a single moment reveals the truth of reality—and changes everything? In this deeply moving and wide-ranging conversation, Dr. Habīb Boerger sits down with radio host Cathy Antunes to explore a profound spiritual awakening that began with the birth of her child—an experience of unity, love, and connection that challenged everything she had been taught about sin, separation, and the nature of God.

From her Irish Catholic roots to her journey through A Course in Miracles and ultimately Sufism, Cathy shares a path shaped by direct experience, inner knowing, and a relentless search for truth.

Together, Habīb and Cathy explore:

  • the difference between religious teaching and lived spiritual reality;

  • experiences of oneness and unitive love;

  • the heart of Sufism and the inner path of Islam;

  • activism, politics, and the role of spirituality in a fractured world;

  • what it means to “do your part” without losing your center; and

  • the power of humility, being teachable, and returning to the heart.

This episode is both mystical and practical—an invitation to reconnect with the light within, to stand in truth, and to embody compassion and courage in a complex world.

Whether you’ve had a spiritual awakening or not, this conversation offers a powerful reminder: the path back to unity begins within.

From Separation to Unity Transcript

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