A Heart That Can Break: Dr. Sabrina N’Diaye on Spiritual Memoir, Mothering Souls, and the Healing Power of Love

In this deeply moving episode of Beyond Names, Dr. Habib Boerger is joined by Dr. Sabrina N’Diaye—therapist, teacher, author, peacebuilder, and founder of the HeartNest Center for Peace and Healing—for a wide-ranging conversation on spirituality, trauma, transformation, and the lifelong work of love.

Dr. Sabrina shares her spiritual journey from Catholic childhood to Sufism, reflecting on identity, ritual, motherhood, caregiving, and the call to become a bridge between worlds. She speaks tenderly about being named Saarah by her teacher, about patience (sabr), and about embracing the sacred assignment of caring for elders, clients, and communities with compassion and presence.

Together, Dr. Habib and Dr. Sabrina explore spiritual memoir as a healing practice, the power of storytelling circles, forgiveness as a daily discipline, and why only a heart that can break can truly let the light in. Drawing on Qur’anic wisdom, interspiritual teachings, psychotherapy, and ancestral memory, Dr. Sabrina invites us to see our lives through a wider lens—where trauma rests in one hand and transformation in the other.

This episode is a soulful offering for anyone longing to heal, to remember who they are, and to consciously participate in growing their light.

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